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Llangollen's Holy Grail legend - new research

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from the BBC...
Llangollen's Holy Grail legend - new research

A chance meeting at Llangollen's historic Valle Crucis Abbey has led to a new book about the Holy Grail legend associated with the atmospheric ruins.
CLICK HERE to read the article.

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Nice one Ian! Well done.
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Wonderful story, and the second picture shows for me powerful forces just below the hill top of a good age, have to scan the same area on Google to confirm,I have no doubt an early site might have stood here down the ages, its a most powerful place, and would not have gone unnoticed Im sure from the past.Little wonder it has stories of past deeds and people of wealth and knowledge visiting here.
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Thanks for the comments folks.

Yes, there was an Iron Age Hill fort at Dinas Bran before the mediaeval Castle was built. The hill fort is the best part of 3000 years old.

It's a stiff walk to the top mind you!

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I just came across this on the forthcoming excavations near Eliseg's Pillar:
Pillar of Eliseg: Archaeologists dig beneath 9th Century monument

Archaeologists are to start excavations on a suspected ancient burial site to try to understand the significance of a Llangollen landmark.
CLICK HERE to read the article.

There's a link to the blog-article at the bottom!

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Here's another article about the archaeological dig currently going on at the Pillar of Eliseg near Valle Crucis abbey.
Pillar of Eliseg: Archaeologists start to unearth Llangollen's past
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Within days of opening trenches on the site of the Pillar of Eliseg, diggers have found pieces of Roman pottery as well as shards of post medieval pottery.

Other notable finds include a spindle whorl at the top of the mound on which the pillar stands.
CLICK HERE to read the article.

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The archaeological dig at Eliseg's Pillar is over for this year. It is hoped that, CADW willing, there will be another dig next year, which might probe more deeply into the mysteries of this ancient mound.

First, a couple of interesting websites:

Audio slideshow: Bronze Age explored at Llangollen landmark

Llangollen Museum facebook page, covering the dig (link broken)
Project Eliseg

The mound is probably a Bronze Age cairn although there's not much dating evidence at the moment apart from a bit of burnt bone and a couple of tiny pieces of flint. They didn't find the skeleton first dug up by the antiquarians, that'll have to wait for another day. There were Roman and post-mediaeval finds as well as more recent stuff.

I bumped into BSD member and forum regular shaunb at Valle Crucis abbey and dowsed a couple of his leys.

Sadly I didn't sell any books. There was quite a lot going on at the abbey; tales from the Mabinogion from a very loud story-teller, mediaeval re-enactment, a guy with a hawk, tents and stalls, there was quite a mediaeval buzz about the place. Good to see my book for sale in the tourist information place in Llangollen, as well as Courtyard books. I didn't see any in the museum although I believe they've had some copies in. CADW don't stock it alas.

The story-teller told the tale from the Mabinogion known as The Dream of Macsen Wledig about the Roman ruler Maximus whose name appears in the Latin inscription on the Pillar of Eliseg. The inscription is no longer visible, it's almost completely worn away. According to a copy of the inscription, the rulers of Powys were descended from Gwrtheyrn, i.e. Vortigern who married Severa, the daughter of Maximus.

I actually got talking to someone who has been reading my book, a guy called Mark, who knows shaunb. It's a small world!

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Steve Dube of the Western Mail has written a review of my book, Valle Crucis and the Grail:
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Oct 23 2010 by Steve Dube, Western Mail

Valle Crucis And The Grail, Ian Pegler (Llanerch)

You meet the most interesting people in the most interesting places sometimes. In Pegler’s case it was Scott Lloyd, author of The Keys To Avalon, one of the very many books about Arthurian legends and the most gripping story of them all – the Grail.
CLICK HERE to read the review.

P.S. I think he meant to say "suspend disbelief".

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Apparently Valle Crucis and the Grail was reviewed in Issue 1 of a new magazine called Mindscape - but I haven't seen it yet.

Has anyone seen it?

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One year on, the archaeologists return to the Pillar of Eliseg...
Archaeologists dig at Pillar of Eliseg near Llangollen

Archaeologists are launching a new dig to try to unearth the secrets of a 9th Century stone monument on a prehistoric mound.
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Ian,

look forward to this, especially after the energy I found at the mound!

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A comment from the Project Eliseg facebook page...
Make sure you keep tuned for when we discover the fabled gilt-edged skull!
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LOL. Excellent to see the "uber-archaeologists" from Bangor and Chester having such a fun time in the howling wind and rain. :lol:

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Ian... Indeed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Wa-yJp ... e=youtu.be

Bit dissapointed at the lack of progress, but perhaps I am being impatient, I should relax with some tea and cous cous!...:-)

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