Geoff Stuttaford wrote:(Tom)â€¦. i see us as in two forms, the heavenly (energy) and earth (the physical)...
(G) Now doing some more dowsingâ€¦â€¦..That is confirmed.
(T) In some circles the heavenly us is the 'spirit' or 'soul', now could this mean that we are existing somewhere else as well as here,
(G) Yes, but in another dimension.
(T) if so then there is a connection between the two. Or alternatively the energy part is with us here, invisible.
(G) Yes, but we use the sane energy
â€¦so i pose some more questions:
(T) do humans have a soul that exists outside of the current physical reality â€¦I
(G) Yes, but â€¦.
((T) we can sense through basic senses, touch sight smell e.t.c?â€¦..
(G) No. We cannot sense in any way what we are or what we do with our alter ego. The same energy is used in both cases.
(T) â€¦..potentially is this infinite?
if the physical part dies does the soul die?
(G) Oneâ€™s soul is eternal;. The physical part may die but the soul lives on in the dimension the alter ego is in.
(T) can the soul die?
(G) No, although a soul can be destroted â€“ the souls of several Nazis were.
(T) Is the physical reality temporary?
(G) For the period the soul incarnates in
the third dimension, yes.
(T) when the physical body reaches a level of understanding, can it negate the need for a physical reality for that individual
(G) It is possible but rarely happens.
(T)when this occurs is there a phenomena associated?
if so what is it?
(G) My source does not know the answer to those questions.
(T) Is energy infinite?
(G) what is your definition of â€œinfiniteâ€ in this context ?
(T) Is there an energy behind all living things?
(G) I understand that it is usually called â€œLife Forceâ€.
(T) can this energy be described as complete?
(G) Some may describe it as sucj
(T) Is this energy unknown to science
(G) Scientists do not believe that it exists.
(CC) (T) because we are not ready to understand it?
(G) That is down to individual belief
(T) Is this energy unknown to us because its too obvious?
G) which energy are you referring to now ? Life Force or some other energy ?
(T) are we able to tap into this energy, to request its use somewhere in the physical world?
(G) Again, which energy are you referring to now ? Life Force or some other energy ?
(G) I suggest that you dowse the answers to these next question, Tom. I have had enough for tonight.
Are there restrictions?
are there other life forms that we call energy?
are these life forms attempting to communicate with us?
are we related to these life forms in a heavenly context
is all energy a form of life, as a whole?
as sections of the above?
can we receive these life forms?
can we perceive this energy?
Is the universe a life form, or can it be described as a sum
is the universe self aware?
is the universe infinite?
feel free to answer these, it may be a better idea to p.m, either myself, Simon or geoff, I would suggest myself as i already have some of the answers to these questions?
whats the consensus, if any?
Thank you for your answers.
I find much of what you say to be the case, and in all honesty where we differ I probably have more to understand.
The biggest problem is this word energy / it has so many different definitions, now what I believe I have seen and know consistently that it is there, is hard to describe but its basically a series of blobs, free-flowing blobs, and these blobs kind of merge into one another, they change colour and shape : very much like a lava lamp. This no doubt has been triggered by a hallucinogenic experience in the past and I for a very long time have considered the possibility that I was in some way defective and what this was was in fact something isolated within my brain, an idea taken form as it were.
But at this stage of my life, when things seem to become so much clearer - this has not and i feel that these blobs, whatever they are are important - they almost want us to understand them, but we cannot understand them and if we were to see them in the form they are in it would be a very bad thing for the individual , i am not sure why exactly.
Some of my questions were to try and assertain (I have accepted that i am not mad, and there is something tangible i am receiving) what this could mean, and so far it is a specifically personal experience , or folk are worried to come forward for very obvious reasons.
Through my own channels of research I have come to a "probable" conclusion that these life forms are energy, constantly changing, as if pure potential (a really vivid thing to witness). These life forms seem to interact constantly , and i believe these life forms to be unaware, and i also believe that it being behind the scenes as it were these beings are what lies beneath our physical reality. There is also nothing to say that these are life forms at all without me looking at the as such, it may be that this is how i have come to understand, or it could be I have invented the whole thing up!!
So the energy is potential and there are gateways or conduits between the behind the scenes as it were, we being such gateways along with many other things, we are however, gateways that are self aware (eye), in this way we are almost the fundamental parts in a feedback system, though humanities self awareness potentially this energy can flow back into itself, this is why i call this energy infinite. Im not too keen on singularity and all that business, but we are essentially singularities between heaven and earth. Earth is finite, the energy that flows within it is infinite...
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now this is the concept as i understood it, because the field is in motion it is infinite - it has no fixed mass and is expanding into itself - i cant get my head around that concept, but that is what is being described.
I am talking about energy, and that i believe all energy exists within this reality or dimension as you call it, I tend to see it as that heaven and earth are one and the same, but the earth is the interface we have to interact with the energy. Now I believe that we are very young and probably the universe we are in is also young, as we develop the reality we are in will also develop, when we start to believe and start to understand potential then the reality we exist with in theory will become more self aware perhaps. I think the system that we have i.e heaven and earth is a fairly early one, hence the massive differences in what people believe.
throughout our past knowledge has been hidden retained about the past, one possibility (i am slightly sceptical here) is that until we have evolved to a point where there are less individuals, the power of the energy i am talking about is very dangerous, I am not sure on past events e.t.c but i suspect there was an incident, or series of incidents where in which things changed and the interface we have today is a direct result of a protection between us and the energy. In this way I guess you could call reality a safety net > an interesting way of viewing it.
I believe that we are expanding, and multiplying and that this makes our race weaker... there will come a time when the human race starts to develop in the opposite way, people will come together and consciousness will start to merge, and eventually you will have one very clever self aware life form instead of a whole race of people. How far we are from such a turning point I do not know.
with all of this in mind I am very aware that this could all be essentially made up, but still interesting to consider.
The universe is a soul, trying to understand itself.... We each have the power to look inward at its immense beauty....