Earthbound spirits

[arthur hamlin]

(mod - split from 'Deviceless Dowsing' - GG)
Hi Bonnie,
I was getting so many earthbounds I thought of speeding up the healing process, hence the tent.
There is a an Angel on the outside acting as a Gatekeeper but Jesus is on the inside after I requested he be there to help those eartbounds that come to me.
I believe anyone could request this arrangement if they wished to see earthbounds being helped. This would I`m told work for Poltergeists.
Even tonight I had an e mail from someone suffering from joint pain.
After dowsing was able to discover another earthbound had latched on to her.
Many times I find that healers and sensitives do not close down sufficiently after opening up.
This is where I try to keep my ego in place.
I was able to get this earthbound to come to me when I asked him what was the matter.
He said that a large boulder was dropped on his forehead. When I asked the size of the boulder my hands went out to show me it was about 21" in diameter and he died instantly and was still angry after thousands of years since it happened.
I could have asked many more questions but find that there is such similarity mainly due to a woman leaving one man to go to another.
I find it helps to do physical work after a session to help shake off any bad vibes.
I would be interested to hear how anyone else deals with earthbounds or any similar interesting experiences.
Arthur

[Geoff Stuttaford]

Arthur,

Could you possibly give us your definition of an earthbound spirit, please ?

[arthur hamlin]

Wow that was quick Geoff - it was only 4 minutes since I last posted !
Now don`t forget the following are just my findings, others may find different.
The most common item I find that makes up an earthbound is anger, especially in young men when they have lost their lives mainly due to war either in a family or tribal or on a national scale.
Less so I find for death by disease or accident and less so for women who I believe generally have less rage/anger in them after an incident.
I have had to help animals who also have anger as the factor for being earthbound.
I do believe it helps to get close to them emotionally/mentally/spiritually to help understand their problem and for them to feel okay/relaxed about opening up to you.
Initially I needed to go through the 3 requests for permission etc but as time has moved on I don`t seem to need to request that now and feel that I am possibly getting connected up okay automatically without much input/request from me.
How do you manage earthbounds Geoff?
Arthur

[Bonnie]

Hi Arthur, thank you very much for that information about the history and workings of your spirit tent, and background on earthbounds. This is a an area that particularly engages me and I have worked along related lines. I look forward to reading Geoff's thoughts on earthbounds, as well.

[Geoff Stuttaford]

Hi Arthur,

Thanks for your explanation about earthbound spirits. I did mention before that I came across just two of them when with a Mediun friend of mine found them during a couple of Bristol Dowsers site visits, but now I have to get permission to 'rescue' any spirits from the astral planes and permission is invariably given. I have dowsed that, over the years, I have 'rescued' about 3600+ of these spirits but I don't ask why they are on the astral planes in the first place. so it is interesting to learn, from what you write, that most of them seem to be angry. I wonder whether it is simply anger that prevents these spirits from progressing, say, to the Light or whether they are just young souls that are unaware of the procedure to get to the Light under their own steam and, in some cases are unaware that they are actually dead. I'm told that many millions of spirits wander around on the astral not knowing how to get out of that state.

We seem to have different definitions of 'earthbounds', Arthur. I would suggest that yours could be referred to as 'astralbounds' rather than 'earthbounds' because I understand that spirits rarely exist on earth but usually only in the astral planes or the Spirit World. I'm advised that the two spirits that my medium friend found were actually earthbound and not astralbound. We got one removed and you goy the other (the one in the well at that pub called The Ram) removed.

Note to Ian.

May I suggest that you extract the posts about 'Earthbound Spirits'' from this thread and put it in the metaphysical section because it is not connected with deviceless dowsing. (Done! - GG)

[Grahame]

Well now Geoff;
I find your differentiation between 'earthbound' and 'astralbound' intriguing - could you elaborate a little more on that please?

We will probably have to get into some definitions of planes of existence here, but let's see how this goes...

In my understanding, I would say by definition that all entities that we encounter are part of the astral or spiritual planes. If they're earthbound and not of the astral, what plane of existence are they in?

By 'earthbound' I would mean (and I think Arthur would agree here) a spirit that is bound to remain in contact with the human realms for whatever reason - either:
- they simply don't realise they are dead,
- they died suddenly and/or unexpectedly and are angry about it,
- they feel they have some uncompleted business to attend to,
- they have strong emotional ties to one still living and don't want to leave them,
- they have elected to remain as guardians of a place.

I'm sure that's by no means a complete list, but it's a start.

Arthur's point about most often encountering angry spirits is interesting; I think that applies mainly to those who have died accidentally or unintentionally (accident, murder, killed in warfare etc.). I think we encounter those more because their anger ties them closer to human thought and emotion so that they are driven to seek us out for that human connection; it makes them easier for us to perceive, and vice versa.
Other 'lost' souls are more difficult for us to perceive because they are less confrontational and are not actively seeking us out. The emotional bridge isn't present - there is less of a connection between us and them. Although their presence may still be felt, it is usually us that has to go searching for them in order to move them on, not the other way round.

[simonwheeler]

I agree with all you write, Grahame.
I would add that in the "realm we are talking of" (thus avoiding being sidetracked into being more precise with definitions!!) are entities that have not necessarily been living human beings but who/which are able to make themselves known to us and can attach themselves. These are usually what we would define as negative and unwanted- using negative emotions as a "road" to us; thus people currently alive who have a sensitivity & predisposition to awareness- and who may have experienced negative strong emotions themselves (such as anger) and who may still have those as residual but hidden emotions, become "targets". And this can be unwitting and unknown to the "victim". If a number of such people congregate at a place (even over a period of time), again, this can provide a "road" for negative entities. Thus places become "infected".
Like attracts like, is the cliché here.
It is similar to the theory of poltergeists and poltergeist activity...whereby entities use strong emotion and the link between strong emotion and physical changes (eg in adolescents) to interfere with life on the physical plane.
We could also get into the link here with folk-lore and elves, goblins etc. But maybe that is too far off-topic.....
Maybe there is a difference between those earthbound (ie no apparent choice in the matter) and those who choose to continue or initiate contact with the physical plane....
As a postscript this, perhaps, reinforces the idea that we need to be careful of/with our thoughts...for they can also act as transit points for negative entities to climb upon.....but again, this may be taking us off-topic and into comparative religion and East v. West. Or into Annie Besant and Rudolf Steiner.....

Apologies if I have (rather appropriately phrased perhaps) opened a can of worms by expanding the topic....

[Geoff Stuttaford]

Hi Graham/Simon,

I would agree with virtually all you have written but there would seem to be a problem with my definition of ‘earthbound’ as opposed to ‘astralbound’. As I mentioned before, I have dowsed that, when we pass over, we either go directly to wherever we should go; alternatively we finish up on one of the astral planes.because of the excellent reasons that you give, Grahame. I must admit that I have encountered only two of what I would call earthbounds and these two seem to have been forced to remain in a different state than those on the astral planes because of their actions when alive. I do not know who or what is responsible for this supposed enforcement or whether is it something that is self imposed but both Arthur and I are aware that specific permission has to be received before an earthbound (my definition) can be released. That permission can also apply when other kinds of astralbound spirits who remain astralbound by choice and would seem to do so from what Arthur writes and I have experienced.

I have dowsed that there are, basically three levels of astral planes, all three being in the third dimension.
The upper level comprises spirits who are lost, do not know what to do or go next. These spirits are helped by some of us to go wherever they should go although we will know nothing consciously about the help we give. These spirits include those that both Graham and Arthur give reasons for their presence on that plane.
The second level consists of spirits who will, at times, invade/attach themselves to the souls of people on this planet for various reasons, often resulting in temporary changes of personality, attempts to impose their wills on people and other reasons. Not a very pleasant group.
In the third level are those who could be described as being in league with the Dark Forces whose ultimate objective is to try to take over, completely, the souls of those they invade. Nasty lot. Lower Astral probably equating with some peoples’ idea of Hell.

Problem now arises is where my two ‘eartbounds’ fit in this scenario. What I’m getting is that they don’t fit in any of these three planes. They are not permitted to enter them neither are they allowed to proceed further until someone finds them and requests their freedom. I’m advised that Hitler was one of these earthbound spirits but his soul had eventually reached such a low level that it had to be destroyed, in spite of attempts to heal it his soul that remained in a fugue since he passed. (If souls can be created they can also be destroyed) .

There is also the probability that many spirits have no connection now with this planet although some may still have connections with those on this planet who can link with them, and there aint many of them around..

What thinkest thou, Bonnie ?

[Bonnie]

Oh, earthbounds and astral planes with my first cup of coffee! I'll try to be cogent!

Since all of us receive and interpret information through our own filters, as a practical matter I accept as provisional certain viewpoints that offer a framework for discussion (I am thinking of the theosophical perspective in particular, along with Steiner's body of thought); I don't consider these theories ultimate or "correct" in the usual sense of that word, but they are useful as templates against which I can test and organize my own impressions. So, with that in mind, I might state that I find Alice A. Bailey's exposition of the planes of existence very helpful in understanding levels of spiritual substance. These are set forth in a remarkable series of books, each of them illustrated with diagrams and "maps" of existence (perhaps the best known of Bailey's works is The Treatise on Cosmic Fire, which Lyndon referenced in another thread).

Briefly, this schema entails seven major planes of existence, each of them divided into seven subplanes, and each of those further subdivided by seven, continuing ad infinitum in divisions of seven - this, I believe, accounts for the many and varying numbers of levels we can arrive at through dowsing. No one is right or wrong, rather each person is attuned to the features of particular subplanes; and these are not sharply defined, but interpenetrating - so all of us are operating within the same territory, but literally from different perspectives.

According to that framework, the dense physical plane is an effect or result of spiritual causes, acting in a magnetic capacity to attract like substance; so when a person dies, his or her energetic tendencies continue to find affinity with a body that no longer functions, but is the focus of memory. Strong emotional attachment is the sticky thread that binds spirit to form, which accounts for anger representing a particular strong tie to the physical plane - often leading to an earthbound condition. The spirit is literally attached, through anger, to the physical body and its former place of residence, "haunting" the lives and scenes connected to the terminated physical-plane life. Anger and other negative emotions act like a battery, keeping emotional and mental ties in a juiced-up condition that can continue to find expression through the living physical bodies of others. Positive emotional states, especially those engendered by love, are literally lighter and of the light, and they are attracted by higher energies toward ever more subtle and spacious planes; it is the lower, more densely configured negative emotions that cause us - and disembodied spirits - problems.

Interpenetrating the dense physical plane is the etheric plane, where the templates for physical life are held; and beyond that, the astral plane or emotional reservoir that is stepped-down to the etheric and physical levels - each plane consisting of seven subplanes and many further sevenfold divisions. The physical/etheric and astral planes are those realms in which emotion holds the greatest sway, acting to create and maintain physical form. So, in a sense, it is academic (according to this model) whether a spirit is earthbound or astrally bound - the more central issue is that there exists a lingering attachment to a physical form that should be returning to the elements. For a spirit, the result is continuing emotional abrasion and escalating torment or confusion, setting up and maintaining a vicious cycle.

My personal approach to all of this is to trust that, even though I might resonate with one or another theory, in the end the best way that I can help bound spirits is to entrust them to very highly attuned beings - Arthur's spirit tent speaks to me of a congregation of spirit helpers in a field hospital for troubled souls, with Jesus - the energy behind the man - officiating.

Regarding Hitler and the need for his spiritual force to have been destroyed or dissolved: Steiner speaks an "eighth sphere" in which even spiritual substance can be annihilated, but this is the end-stage of a long, long series of unenlightened (literally) choices, whereby the individual has steadfastly refused to change course even when he or she knew full well the path was destructive. It is almost unheard-of for a spirit not to see the light (again, literally) at some point, opening the door to redemption of substance and course correction. Most spirits need help along the way, and spirits operating on all levels of existence - including us, on the earth plane - have the privilege of participating in that great work.

[Geoff Stuttaford]

OK Bonnie,but how much of what you have written have you dowsed ?

[Bonnie]

Oh, I'm sorry, Geoff, that's what I wanted to convey...that dowsing will arrive at different results for all of us in these nebulous realms, depending on our own level of consciousness. So I don't dowse for specifics in that area, having established through dowsing that the sevenfold plane model is accurate as a general set of principles. For me, dowsing beyond the great overarching issues would complicate things beyond what is necessary for the task I wish to accomplish (i.e., assisting trapped entities to move on, if help be needed) - I trust higher potencies with whom I work to negotiate the microlevels of the path. I have dowsed that the theosophical model is ethical and workable in its aim and purpose, so I accept it as a framework.

I think you are also asking - and forgive me, I didn't realize it until now, and instead got all long-winded on theory - if I dowse to detect trapped entities, and if so do I dowse to know how to help them. The answer is Yes, through deviceless dowsing using breath as a sensing mechanism that sends out "feelers." It's difficult to describe, but I was trained in this method many years ago and it's almost as if the exhalation is equipped with hands and eyes. This is probably identical to what Huna practitioners refer to as sending a thread of mana to the desired object.

[arthur hamlin]

Hi Bonnie, thanks for your very interesting input and can concur with a lot of what you say.
Although much can be written down as you have done my question like Geoff`s is did you dowse this, did you get it from some written material or are you gifted to receive in some way to relay this info to us?.
I feel I can only write from personal experience even though I have read quite a lot in the past about life in the world unseen etc, I feel that if I can help someone to develope and experience as I have done if they wish than that is reward enough.
My dowsing says that earthbounds can come from all the Astral Realms. I also find that there are various levels or degrees of pain and anger which is made manifest to me when I`m allowed to help with the healing.
Feed back is also important to be able to assess what has helped in the process here to help steer for the future incidents.
When the eartbounds have reported back to me seconds after going through the tent they are truly jubilant and will clap my hands afterward quite vigorously which makes me smile and happy also.
I than request to know their choice about where they wish to go. In most instances my spirit guide is chosen to take them to their loved ones but many times they request their loved ones to come and pick them up.
On arrival just seconds later I experience more hand claps and almost feel the joy that they experience.
Slightly deviating now to tell you that when I have bonfires at the bottom of my garden it was always my male relatives who would stand around the fire and give me answers to my questions, but realised that none of the wives or women folk would come. On asking why, was told that the women were brutalised or threatened with fire in about the 5th century AD, and am told this occured all over Europe for any wrong doing.
I sought to get healing to some of these women folk to help them to understand their anger. The next bonfire I had they turned up.
Whoops I better stop!.
Arthur

[Bonnie]

Hi Arthur. Thank you very much for sharing more information about your process. I am so glad that you were able to assist your female ancestors in such a way that they appeared at your last bonfire! And I love reading about that pervasive joy when an entity crosses to the light.

My apologies, I did try to answer your question in my last post, and must not have been clear - yes, I have dowsed that the theosophical information is correct in its outlines, and I go from there - I haven't dowsed each and every premise of the theory separately, having been assured (through dowsing) that the overall outline provides a sound foundation for further action. When it comes to entities needing help, I take each individual or group on a case-by-case basis and dowse for specifics about how to help them. I have no special gifts, only a dedication to this particular form of service and (thankfully) tools like dowsing to work with.

I agree with you entirely that one ought to speak from first-hand knowledge about these issues, where possible (and I would add, where that is not possible, one ought to cite sources). I can only say that my personal experience has corroborated the general teachings I outlined earlier for readers who might not be familiar with them (I'm an old teacher and haven't been able to overcome the habit of defining terms), and I am always guided by dowsing, working strictly in accordance with my spiritual guidance for whatever is needed in individual situations.

In my first post to this thread, I attempted to outline a philosophy which my personal experience supports - at the time of writing, it seemed necessary to do so at some length, in case people just coming to the thread might not be familiar with my position in regard to Geoff's question about what I thought. But I think that I confused the issue, more than clarified it, and I do apologize for that.

[Geoff Stuttaford]

Hi Bonnie and Arthur,

Thank you Bonnie for your fascinating description of the technique that you use for ‘spirit rescue’. No need whatsoever to apologise for explaining your philosophy. I have dowsed that it is entirely appropriate for you to use that technique as it is for Arthur to use his technique. I entirely agree with you that everyone who indulges in spirit rescue uses whatever method is best for him/her. I would suggest that we use different techniques because we have learned them over many incarnations doing this kind of work and they are contained in our ‘soul memory’s DNA’ that gets re-generated when we decide we need to help these spirits. I posted info about the three basic astral planes because I deal with spirits on all of them and therefore have to know what I am dealing with. I doubt whether we would ever agree on the definition of ‘earthbound’ because our personal definition will always be part of our own way of understanding things.

[Bonnie]

Geoff, I so agree with what you say about this kind of work being in our soul memory DNA, regenerated at the right time, each person in his or her own way. I am fascinated by the many approaches to this service. As you say, our personal definitions reflect what we've learned and go hand-in-glove with the ways in which we work. Thank you for your kind and gracious words.