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Re: The trouble with Wikipedia

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I know exactly what you mean, bill.

I remember how astonished I was a few months ago to to read on a (very prestigious) travel agent's website, that "Ibiza is called the White Island because of all the jasmine trees that grow there"!!!! :shock: Where they got that amazing bit of info, I really don't know!!

Having lived in Ibiza for over 20 years, I can say that I've never seen a 'jasmine tree' there ever! :roll: It's called La Isla Blanca because all the houses were painted white, simples.
It makes you wonder just what other rubbish you read about places you'd like to visit!
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from the BBC...
Wikipedia investigates PR firm Bell Pottinger's edits

Wikipedia has suspended at least 10 accounts linked to the public relations firm Bell Pottinger as it investigates allegations of content manipulation.
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from Wikipedia...
English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout

Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States—the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate—that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.
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from the BBC...
Sopa and Pipa protests not over, says Wikipedia

After a 24-hour blackout, Wikipedia has returned to full working order but declared: "We're not done yet."
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from the Telegraph...
Jimmy Wales: Wikipedia chief to advise Whitehall on policy

Jimmy Wales, the Wikipedia co-founder, has been appointed as a British government adviser on how Whitehall can make policy decisions more transparent, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.
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Meet the 'bots' that edit Wikipedia

Wikipedia is written and maintained by tens of thousands of volunteers across the world. Those, in turn, are assisted by hundreds of "bots" - autonomous computer programmes that keep the encyclopaedia running.
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from the BBC...
Author Roth rebukes Wikipedia over Human Stain edit

Renowned author Philip Roth has criticised Wikipedia after he was unable to convince the site to change an entry about one of his novels.
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Wikipedia are currently appealing for donations.

Given the way they have allowed the pseudo-skeptics to ruin the Dowsing and other pages, they won't be getting a penny from me.

I advise you do likewise and give your fiver to a good cause instead.

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from WalesOnline...
Wikipedia: Former minister Jane Davidson admits removing critical comments

A former Welsh Government Cabinet Minister has admitted removing critical comments from her Wikipedia entry and replacing them with positive material.
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Just seen this article, entitled:
"Wikapediatrician Susan Gerbic discusses her Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia project"
Don’t be so open-minded that your brains fall out. LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI

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simonwheeler wrote:Just seen this article, entitled:
"Wikapediatrician Susan Gerbic discusses her Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia project"
Oh yes, they're quite open about it. If pseudo-skepticism is your bag, Wikipedia is the place to go.

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Ian Pegler wrote:
simonwheeler wrote:Just seen this article, entitled:
"Wikapediatrician Susan Gerbic discusses her Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia project"
Oh yes, they're quite open about it. If pseudo-skepticism is your bag, Wikipedia is the place to go.

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More on pseudo-skeptical "online activism" here.

In spite of their claims, the wiki Dowsing page is anything but balanced - except in favour of their beliefs. It is also highly inaccurate,
contains only ancient b/w photos (except one of Randi) and contains tendentious propaganda based on false arguments.

The best we can do is to NOT participate in the maintenance of these pages, otherwise it might be seen as some kind of endorsement.

We can also tell people that Wikipedia is a pile of crap - which it is, btw - and that we don't endorse it.

P.S. Radiesthesia is just the French word for dowsing. Radionics is something most people would consider to be different. They are not synonyms
any more than dowsing and ouija are synonyms.

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Although his (Robert Clark Young) particular reign of terror did not wipe out modern paganism, he has to have done more damage to Wikipedia's image than Tomás de Torquemada managed for the Catholic church in Spain.
I liked that! :mrgreen:
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"Torquemada – do not implore him for compassion.
Torquemada – do not beg him for forgiveness.
Torquemada – do not ask him for mercy.
Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!"

- Mel Brooks, History of the World Part One
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Re: The trouble with Wikipedia

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More pseudo-skeptical diatribes...
With access to the total sum of human knowledge through the Internet, you would be forgiven for thinking the Internet would be ushering in a new age of enlightenment. However, the openness of the Internet has provided an unearned level playing field for purveyors of misinformation and deceit to reach larger audiences than ever before.
(from the JREF site)

One or two points:

Things like democracy, freedom of thought and expression, all those values which we hold so dear require a level playing field. King Arthur's Round Table is symbolic of the level playing field, perhaps explaining why the Arthurian legends are so popular the world over. Everyone deserves a platform, a voice, a right to be heard - it's not something you have to earn.

It is dissappointing to learn (as if we didn't already know) that these groups don't care about such fundamental principles and are now so brazen that they are prepared to state it publicly (I could point so one or two other instances, not just the above).

The playing field is already uneven in any case, even on the Internet. Just because someone has a different take on things does not make them a "purveyors of misinformation and deceit".

Good grief.

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